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said to be effective in conflict with hamas. what. we look at the questions from the pentagon. >> 1,500 rockets were fired at israel from the gaza strip in eight day of fighting. the iron dome missile system said to intercepted most of them. modern warfare game changer in the middle east. >> iron dome, performed, fair to say remarkably well. in the recent escalation. >> only 55 out of the 1,500 ended up falling. >> the u.s. taxpayers invested $275 million to help israel build and seal the iron dome which can stop incoming rockets within a 2.5-mile to 44-mile range. israel outgoing defense minister gave panetta a model as a token of gratitude. >> small iron dome. >> but the u.s. army want mrs. than a model. it wants its own antimissile system. and congress would like a favorable discount given what the u.s. has already invested in the system. >> but instead of buying from israelis who already have technology, the army may decide to start from scratch. with a u.s. con tacker. system called ai-3 to take hundreds of millions of dollars ta
said to be effective in conflict with hamas. what. we look at the questions from the pentagon. >> 1,500 rockets were fired at israel from the gaza strip in eight day of fighting. the iron dome missile system said to intercepted most of them. modern warfare game changer in the middle east. >> iron dome, performed, fair to say remarkably well. in the recent escalation. >> only 55 out of the 1,500 ended up falling. >> the u.s. taxpayers invested $275 million to help israel...
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one hamas state in gaza in another state will which its leader is vying for a victory that's not the way to run an issue of the people who want to have a homeland and your people want to have a homeland it's not enough to have that liberation you have to build your nation towards that and i don't see the palestinian do it through the united nations not through the international court in a normal not through drive our men revive the road. to jerusalem police replied norman. our. i do think that romney has complete lucidity of mind he's clearly not suffering from outside but i'm not sure why he's saying the problem is the palestinians won't negotiate surely he's who were there in the latest phase in the goshi asians they began in one nine hundred ninety three which is to say hello in september and that's now nearly twenty years later and of anyone reads through the record of those negotiations and i haven't read all the transcript the let me say one instructor in conclusion let me strike me inclusion that you are meant finishing i will be going in july and let me run initial go ahead r
one hamas state in gaza in another state will which its leader is vying for a victory that's not the way to run an issue of the people who want to have a homeland and your people want to have a homeland it's not enough to have that liberation you have to build your nation towards that and i don't see the palestinian do it through the united nations not through the international court in a normal not through drive our men revive the road. to jerusalem police replied norman. our. i do think that...
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hamas. so i think they're usually getting blown up in james bond movies from what i hear but now maybe they're going to get blown up by what moody's is saying ok the ratings agency has reportedly put aston martin on review for a debt downgrade and what i think is interesting about this dimitri is that we always talk about downgrades with austerity in europe and sovereign debt crises and we see these countries facing downgrades but look luxuries impactive to extravagances feeling the pinch as well so what's the reason for the. i forget there's that i don't know it's a credit yeah there's a great is yes they might see their debt downgrade i mean i don't know are the services i mean you like the story you were a big figure maybe you're in the market for and are smart to you you know you're you make a lot more than i do here at this i work on your ridiculous maybe so maybe this is why you want to you tell me what was it about i already did i just set it up but the whole beginning of this this in
hamas. so i think they're usually getting blown up in james bond movies from what i hear but now maybe they're going to get blown up by what moody's is saying ok the ratings agency has reportedly put aston martin on review for a debt downgrade and what i think is interesting about this dimitri is that we always talk about downgrades with austerity in europe and sovereign debt crises and we see these countries facing downgrades but look luxuries impactive to extravagances feeling the pinch as...
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the whole argument about in vote yesterday was abbas is down because hamas has been firing rockets and we have to lit -- lift him up and many of our european friends vote if favor of this and that is the kind of thing that discredits the u.n. i don't think we should worry about it in the macro sense but i do think this is going to be used very much against israel. and they are making a mistake in minimizing the consequences. i know the pain hurts but this is a very important political victory for the palestinian authority. >>neil: do you think we will see a palestinian state? >>guest: well, not any time soon at the rate they are going. that is why the vote is contrary to reality but that makes it par for the course at the n. >>neil: thank you, ambassador. if the president's pitch does not give him the extra $50 billion in instruction he -- in stimulus he is seeking, groups are gearing up. a republican lawmaker is saying they are hoping it doesn't take him down and he is challenging him. to investing with knowledge. the potential of td ameritrade unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the w
the whole argument about in vote yesterday was abbas is down because hamas has been firing rockets and we have to lit -- lift him up and many of our european friends vote if favor of this and that is the kind of thing that discredits the u.n. i don't think we should worry about it in the macro sense but i do think this is going to be used very much against israel. and they are making a mistake in minimizing the consequences. i know the pain hurts but this is a very important political victory...
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it seemed relevant and the people in gaza, the hamas war lords seem very mighty. so in a way there is kind of a rectification of the balance between ramallah and gaza. this really is what mattered to the palestinian negotiators. and there is a symbolism. the symbolism is they have what they call the birth certificate. and the irony, here is something i really like when you think of ironies of history. the palestinians had a chance to be the number 59th state in the general assembly in 1947. they are now the 194th state. so it was late, but that was what you had with the vote. >> if you take the 30,000-foot view, the talks are stalled which leads to the question did palestine really have any choice? >> well, no. you're right. we have had no talks in a way. you're absolutely right on palestine. i mean, the last president -- the last american president who was committed to talks between israel and the palestinians let's give him credit, it was bill clinton. he had a passion for that issue. and he wanted to negotiate a settlement between israel and the palestinians. g
it seemed relevant and the people in gaza, the hamas war lords seem very mighty. so in a way there is kind of a rectification of the balance between ramallah and gaza. this really is what mattered to the palestinian negotiators. and there is a symbolism. the symbolism is they have what they call the birth certificate. and the irony, here is something i really like when you think of ironies of history. the palestinians had a chance to be the number 59th state in the general assembly in 1947....
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really, for greater middle east who are supposed to be the brokers of the police between israel and hamas. >>reporter: eight or nine days ago president morsi was the hero who put cease-fire between israel and hamas but he made a series of decisions that have a lot of people questioning his judgment. he had to walk back some of them. push through a constitution in the dead of night, ignoring the liberal and secular voices in the society it seems to be a substantial mistake. >>shepard: does the military back him? do we know? >>guest: the constitution which i have not read, it appears to keep the military relatively immune from interference by the new parliament. that could leave the military authorities in place. there are two institutions that could pump back against the dictatorship, including the court system. and the other is the military. we have not heard much from the military for some time. >>shepard: thank you from harvard. >>shepard: representatives from every country on this planet will sit down to write new rules for the internet. some of them say they want more control over wha
really, for greater middle east who are supposed to be the brokers of the police between israel and hamas. >>reporter: eight or nine days ago president morsi was the hero who put cease-fire between israel and hamas but he made a series of decisions that have a lot of people questioning his judgment. he had to walk back some of them. push through a constitution in the dead of night, ignoring the liberal and secular voices in the society it seems to be a substantial mistake....
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do you know that there is a church in humanas-- hamas built in the year 59. 59, that has been-- . >> rose: 59. >> 59 bc, that has been destroyed or damaged seriously, i don't know exactly what. two mosques, one in homs. >> rose: two mosques. >> two mosques, also of the beginning of islam. the market in-- the covered market in a legal-- aleppo is a part of the heritage has been burned. so the country is being destroyed. i didn't realize that how rich the past of syria is. the looting of archaeological things is taking place. not as bad as it happened in iraq but bad enough already. so this is what is happening. are you going to have, what i am saying is the choice really now is between a failed state or a political solution. there is no third option. >> rose: but is it primarily russia. >> no. >> rose: which has to change. >> no, no, i think everybody has to make an effort. it's, you know, this is you know what kofi annan called fingerpointing. that's not what you want. russia is a responsible member, permanent member, so is china. you've got to reach out to them and you know try agai
do you know that there is a church in humanas-- hamas built in the year 59. 59, that has been-- . >> rose: 59. >> 59 bc, that has been destroyed or damaged seriously, i don't know exactly what. two mosques, one in homs. >> rose: two mosques. >> two mosques, also of the beginning of islam. the market in-- the covered market in a legal-- aleppo is a part of the heritage has been burned. so the country is being destroyed. i didn't realize that how rich the past of syria is....
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is there any chance now that hamas and the palestinian authority can come together and unify and present a united front in negotiations with israel? >> i believe that's really of utmost importance. relative to that, what we palestinians want to accomplish. will we be able to have that state fully independent where we can live as free people with dignity. without the unification, to be able to put our country back together, the institution of our people back together, it's not going to be possible for us to have that state. that's something that we want. now, of course, in that sense thereof there is a certain degree of truth to the presentation as long as the separation exists it's difficult to see it as meaningful. however the truth of the matter is the plo, when it entered into agreements with israel, going back to 1993, it did so on behalf of all palestinian people. those who reside in the occupied territory in gaza as well as west bank, but also on palestinians. >> so you believe you still represent all? >> obviously. the plo and the [ inaudible ] are competent to negotiate for the p
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the conflict there between israel and hamas had nothing to do with yesterday's vote at the u.n. where mahmoud abbas won his bid for the upgrade here. here's how the vote came down. >> the voting has been completed. please log the machine. 138 countries voted yes, and there were only nine no's. you and i have been talking about this the last couple of days anticipating that this was going to happen here. this was a big blow to the united states and israel that warned, look, don't go there, don't do this, and we heard from the ambassador, u.s. ambassador to u.n. susan rice immediately after the vote. i want you to see what she said. >> today's unfortunate and counter productive resolution places further obstacles in the path to peace. that is where the united states voted against it. today's grand pronouncements will soon fade, and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed. >> how is it all these other countries, how is it that the -- the united states got it right here? >> mrs. rice is correct. ms. rice is correct, and in term
the conflict there between israel and hamas had nothing to do with yesterday's vote at the u.n. where mahmoud abbas won his bid for the upgrade here. here's how the vote came down. >> the voting has been completed. please log the machine. 138 countries voted yes, and there were only nine no's. you and i have been talking about this the last couple of days anticipating that this was going to happen here. this was a big blow to the united states and israel that warned, look, don't go there,...
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hamas still refuses to recognize the state of israel. so the more things change the more they stay the same. the jenna. jenna: well-put, david lee. we certainly have a lot more questions ahead in the new year for sure. david lee miller live in jerusalem. david lee, thank you. jon: some new information now on the looming fiscal cliff negotiations. strong words from republican leadership after president obama's opening bid. the president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and expanded powers for the president to raise the federal debt limit without getting any approval from congress. a senior house gop source calls the president's plan, quote, absurd. and provides a 6-point explanation to back it up. is the economy headed for that fiscal cliff? is all of this negotiating dead in the water? let's bring in our panel. monica crowley, radio talk show host and author of monomemo.com. jewelry roginsky former political advisor to senator frank lautenberg of new jersey. both fox news contributors. you say the p
hamas still refuses to recognize the state of israel. so the more things change the more they stay the same. the jenna. jenna: well-put, david lee. we certainly have a lot more questions ahead in the new year for sure. david lee miller live in jerusalem. david lee, thank you. jon: some new information now on the looming fiscal cliff negotiations. strong words from republican leadership after president obama's opening bid. the president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $50 billion in new...
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as we saw last week violent extremists like hamas are gaining influence. palestinian authority, which rejects violence, recognizes israel, is losing influence and patience. last week secretary clinton c s successfully negotiated the cease fire but wasn't able to persuade palestinian president mahmoud abbas to drop this bid. >> margaret, are there consequences for the united states and iz role for this vote? >> reporter: potentially. the concern is that congress could cut off funds to the palestinian authority. the u.s. gave about $495 million in aid last year, which helped keep that peaceful government in power. the state department says that money needs to continue. benjamin netanyahu faces re-election in january says this vote is meaningless. threatening to withhold tax funds. he says he is willing to begin peace negotiations. >> egypt's parliament, dominated by conservative muslims approved a new constitution early this morning. the assembly's more moderate members are crying foul. it is sparking another day of protests against president mohamed morsi.
as we saw last week violent extremists like hamas are gaining influence. palestinian authority, which rejects violence, recognizes israel, is losing influence and patience. last week secretary clinton c s successfully negotiated the cease fire but wasn't able to persuade palestinian president mahmoud abbas to drop this bid. >> margaret, are there consequences for the united states and iz role for this vote? >> reporter: potentially. the concern is that congress could cut off funds...
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other big disagreements over iran's military aid to the regime in syria and rockets that smuggle to hamas. in the second term, no foreign policy challenge is more critical. the president has been dealing with iran's suspected nuclear threats. >> andrea mitchell in washington. thanks so much. >>> egypt islamists approved a draft constitution this morning that could further enrage anti-government protesters. it was passed without participation of liberal and christian members. human rights experts fear it could give muslim clerics influence over legislation and restrict freedom of speech and women's rights. >>> a spokesman says former president george h.w. bush should be able to leave the hospital by the weekend. he has been hospitalized for complications from bronchitis. >>> last day of trading for november. what's moving the markets? good morning, kayla. >> the stocks are following the fiscal cliff and the market dove yesterday on comments from house speaker john boehner. data released yesterday showed economic growth in the u.s. is still weak. consumers and businesses alike are putting a
other big disagreements over iran's military aid to the regime in syria and rockets that smuggle to hamas. in the second term, no foreign policy challenge is more critical. the president has been dealing with iran's suspected nuclear threats. >> andrea mitchell in washington. thanks so much. >>> egypt islamists approved a draft constitution this morning that could further enrage anti-government protesters. it was passed without participation of liberal and christian members....
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thing that he has done it very very grieving to me is that he has prevented any reconciliation between hamas and fatah when the egyptians have been almost own the verge of succeeding with that reconciliation nation yahoo any united states are going to ceded and block the reconciliation which i think is very important so all poor those things have proven that for the first time eighteen you know who and his serco sosia as you know. lieberman they now they both agree that israel will take over everything they want in the public opinion areas so this is the first time in history that the problems tenure and prime minister and princess of present united states have been crossed up as far as their gold is concerned. amazing president carter confirmed that every former prime minister of israel prior to netanyahu had accepted the two state solution and isn't passion concern over the fact for the first time ever the government of israel what unabashedly continue to take over palestinian land unless something is done was a brutally honest plea that the international community should take heed to in f
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that territory is controlled by hamas, and internationally recognized terrorist organization that has rained missiles over israel. right into the heart of israel's cities this month. this resolution will not enable the palestinian authority to join international treaties, organizations, or conferences. this resolution cannot serve as an acceptable alternative to these negotiations with israel. this resolution says nothing about israel's security needs. and does not call on palestinian to recognize israel as a jewish state. it does not end the conflict. let me tell you what this resolution does do. this resolution violates fundamental binding commitments. this is a commitment that many states gathered here today in this chamber and stan witness to the commitment that all standing issues would only be resolved in direct negotiations. the resolution sends a message that the international community is willing to turn a blind eye to peace agreements. the people of israel, it raises a simple question -- why continue to make painful sacrifices for peace in exchange for pieces of paper that t
that territory is controlled by hamas, and internationally recognized terrorist organization that has rained missiles over israel. right into the heart of israel's cities this month. this resolution will not enable the palestinian authority to join international treaties, organizations, or conferences. this resolution cannot serve as an acceptable alternative to these negotiations with israel. this resolution says nothing about israel's security needs. and does not call on palestinian to...
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. >> all coming on the heels of the recent cease-fire between hamas and israel. so really interesting development here. susan rice, u.n. ambassador had harsh word talk about that later in the show. interesting times. >> interesting times. off. >>> well, there is a desperate search on this morning for an 11-year-old girl with leukemia whose mother walked her out of a hospital in phoenix. doctors fear for the little girl's life because she had a catheter in her heart, and it could get infected if not properly removed. the hospital released these surveillance pictures and is asking for the public's help in finding the family. >> bizarre story. >>> well, president obama visits a suburban philadelphia toy factory today, hoping to win some public support for his plan to avoid that so-called fiscal cliff. on capitol hill, it's one step forward, five steps back seems like. neither republicans nor democrats seem willing to budge on the issue of tax raises for the wealthiest americans. in fact, the two sides are so far apart, even just days before the deadline, they can't
. >> all coming on the heels of the recent cease-fire between hamas and israel. so really interesting development here. susan rice, u.n. ambassador had harsh word talk about that later in the show. interesting times. >> interesting times. off. >>> well, there is a desperate search on this morning for an 11-year-old girl with leukemia whose mother walked her out of a hospital in phoenix. doctors fear for the little girl's life because she had a catheter in her heart, and it...
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we have hamas that does not recognize israel's right to exist. what do you want me to negotiate with them? how deep the hole, what flowers to invent to get to my funeral? at the end of the day, we are dealing with a terrorist organization. we went out of gaza never to look back into gaza and what are we getting? we are getting missiles day in and day out. >> i heard this argument, mr. ambassador. let me just say this, sir. the point is, though, you have to bite the unacceptable bullet eventually. you have to just do that. that's what happened in northern ireland. >> we are biting -- >> they now have mounting prosperity from that peace. so isn't that what has to happen? i know it's unpalatable and makes israelis' stomachs churn but until you do it, i don't see how you get a settlement. >> first of all, i think we showed intangibles, okay? this is why it's important especially today, we gave tangibles in order to -- we gave tangibles when we made peace with egypt, with jordan, also on the palestinian side when we signed the oslo agreements, we gave
we have hamas that does not recognize israel's right to exist. what do you want me to negotiate with them? how deep the hole, what flowers to invent to get to my funeral? at the end of the day, we are dealing with a terrorist organization. we went out of gaza never to look back into gaza and what are we getting? we are getting missiles day in and day out. >> i heard this argument, mr. ambassador. let me just say this, sir. the point is, though, you have to bite the unacceptable bullet...
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hamas doesn't recognize your right to exist. the plo does. abbas. is it possible the win today gives him a boost? that this is something that is good for you? >> first, it raised the question if he represents the whole palestinians or only half of them. only the west bank as you have just mentioned. hamas don't recognize the right of israel to exist, so what we are dealing with here is the palestinian people. that's first. the second thing is more important. they are violating their signature with israel. it makes those that are opposing the peace process in israel and in the arab world much more powerful because they always tell us, don't believe the palestinians. they will never, never implement their commitments and they show us once again that we are committed not to make a lateral move. we'll negotiate for the final start agreement. unfortunately, those that oppose the idea to them was the palestinians become more powerful and the community helped them to accept or to convince the israel public opinion that there is no one for us. >> thank you
hamas doesn't recognize your right to exist. the plo does. abbas. is it possible the win today gives him a boost? that this is something that is good for you? >> first, it raised the question if he represents the whole palestinians or only half of them. only the west bank as you have just mentioned. hamas don't recognize the right of israel to exist, so what we are dealing with here is the palestinian people. that's first. the second thing is more important. they are violating their...
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i think what happened in this cease-fire with hamas leaves them in a strategically weaker position. it leaves iran and its terrorist supporters in a stronger position. you've got the ongoing effort by the muslim brotherhood in egypt to solidify its power over egypt and the military there. this is not looking for israel. >> greta: certainly is disturbing events tonight on that front. anyway, ambassador, nice to see you sir. >> glads to be here. >> greta: straight ahead, does senator john cornyn think president obama wants you to go president obama wants you to go over the fiscal [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. bass pro shops has great gift ideas at huge savings during our cyber week sale at basspro.com. check in every day for amazing web buster specials. plus, get free shipping on orders of $75 or more. >> greta: we're about to go head first over the fiscal cliff and democrats and republicans are still mile
i think what happened in this cease-fire with hamas leaves them in a strategically weaker position. it leaves iran and its terrorist supporters in a stronger position. you've got the ongoing effort by the muslim brotherhood in egypt to solidify its power over egypt and the military there. this is not looking for israel. >> greta: certainly is disturbing events tonight on that front. anyway, ambassador, nice to see you sir. >> glads to be here. >> greta: straight ahead, does...
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it also is a sign of confidence in abu -- in abbas because of fears that the hamas group which is much more radical and rejects recognizing israel, rejects the state of israel, may be gaining ground around the palestinians and in the region is important to bolster him. i think that's one reason why so many states voted for this resolution. >> eliot: i think there has been something -- i hate to use the word consensus but certainly there is a strain of thought that netanyahu has missed the strain of thought to turn abbas into a genuine partner for peace and hamas as you just said has risen in the eyes of certainly the palestinians and many of the nations in the middle east. what should netanyahu do to extend the olive branch, if anything to abbas to say wait a minute, the two of us are going to be the peacemakers. let's begin the process? >> both sides have agreed that direct negotiations between the two for two state solution is the way forward. since the end of the 1990s there has been a broad outline of how such an agreement could be achieved. at one time or another neither side or b
it also is a sign of confidence in abu -- in abbas because of fears that the hamas group which is much more radical and rejects recognizing israel, rejects the state of israel, may be gaining ground around the palestinians and in the region is important to bolster him. i think that's one reason why so many states voted for this resolution. >> eliot: i think there has been something -- i hate to use the word consensus but certainly there is a strain of thought that netanyahu has missed the...
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i think what happened in this cease-fire with hamas leaves them in a strategically weaker position. it leaves iran and its terrorist supporters in a stronger position. you've got the ongoing effort by the muslim brotherhood in egypt to solidify its power over egypt and the military there. this is not looking for israel. >> greta: certainly is disturbing events tonight on that front. anyway, ambassador, nice to see you sir. >> glads to be here. >> greta: straight ahead, does senator john cornyn think president obama wants you to go over the fiscal cliff? that question. that's next. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. >> greta: we're about to go head first over the fiscal cliff and democrats and republicans are still miles apart.
i think what happened in this cease-fire with hamas leaves them in a strategically weaker position. it leaves iran and its terrorist supporters in a stronger position. you've got the ongoing effort by the muslim brotherhood in egypt to solidify its power over egypt and the military there. this is not looking for israel. >> greta: certainly is disturbing events tonight on that front. anyway, ambassador, nice to see you sir. >> glads to be here. >> greta: straight ahead, does...
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or how the upheaval in syria and the rise of the muslim brotherhood in egypt have affected hamas. how the treaty between egypt and israel remains the bedrock for peace in the region despite all the change going on around it. how israel's concerns over iran's nuclear program shape its overall security posture. then there are the economics of border crossings and fishing rights and concerns about smuggling and arms proliferation. the list goes on. the united states really does need to bring an unprecedented level of strategic sophistication to these -- rather than just going and chasing after the crisis of the moment. american policy makers need to play chess, not checkers. some would have us wall off certain challenges -- that is just not realistic in today's world. that leads me to the fifth area -- a set of interconnected global challenges that defied both national borders and easy solutions. climate change -- poverty, hunger, disease, nuclear proliferation, human trafficing, women's rights, international terrorism, and more. no one nation can solve many of these problems alone.
or how the upheaval in syria and the rise of the muslim brotherhood in egypt have affected hamas. how the treaty between egypt and israel remains the bedrock for peace in the region despite all the change going on around it. how israel's concerns over iran's nuclear program shape its overall security posture. then there are the economics of border crossings and fishing rights and concerns about smuggling and arms proliferation. the list goes on. the united states really does need to bring an...
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hamas will be in control of gaza. and jerusalem is in israel's hands. >> but does it mean that they can join u.n. bodies, for example, the u.n. -- international criminal court. and many worry that they could go after is real progress this is what caused israel the most concern, that the palestinians can challenge them in the international fora, most notably the international criminal court. there is concern that soldiers all over the world will be subject to icc challenges. they see it as a not a step toward peace, but one of confrontation. >> france voted yes. germany and britain abstained. they were kind of on the fence. what of the peace talks, which everyone says they want? >> my concern is that this might push peace? further away rather than forward. given that you need israel at the table and that the u.s. tends to be the shepherd of peace talks, the palestinians defied president obama's express wishes not to do this. the u.s. calls for direct negotiations. we have seen this in the wake of the reaction. prime mi
hamas will be in control of gaza. and jerusalem is in israel's hands. >> but does it mean that they can join u.n. bodies, for example, the u.n. -- international criminal court. and many worry that they could go after is real progress this is what caused israel the most concern, that the palestinians can challenge them in the international fora, most notably the international criminal court. there is concern that soldiers all over the world will be subject to icc challenges. they see it as...
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today's won the approval of rival militant fashions there was support in hamas controlled gaza. after being marginalized during the recent conflict between israel and gaza the palestinian president is for today at least a hero among the palestinian people. the question though that is yet to be answered, what will the long-term impact be of today's vote israelis and many palestinians concede for the most part it is largely symbolic. shepard? >> shepard: david lee miller live in jerusalem tonight. domestic issues here at home and republic leaders say we are now in more danger of falling off the fiscal cliff on new year's day. that would mean automatic spending cuts and the expiration of tax cuts for most americans. president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white
today's won the approval of rival militant fashions there was support in hamas controlled gaza. after being marginalized during the recent conflict between israel and gaza the palestinian president is for today at least a hero among the palestinian people. the question though that is yet to be answered, what will the long-term impact be of today's vote israelis and many palestinians concede for the most part it is largely symbolic. shepard? >> shepard: david lee miller live in jerusalem...
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it is not just the brotherhood wing of hamas that is a threat. now we should start to see the regional threat of islamism from egypt and what we're funding. liz: meanwhile, that brings us right into the rest of the discussion. meanwhile as tide is turning around the world, feels like the sand is shifting beneath your feet we're sending money to the imf, turning around giving these loans to egypt. does that make sense? >> it really doesn't. melissa, so good you're bringing this up because if you look in history, every dictatorship whether nazis or others they have been able to come to power through so-called elections because they brought economic stability. the people are back on the streets in egypt for revolution 2.0 because they didn't really elect morsi. he won 25% and then won a runnoff. now they're coming back because of economic instability. the imf is giving him the feasibility to stay in power and give them the economic stability that, if they didn't have, if we, not only the united states needs leadership from president obama to say tha
it is not just the brotherhood wing of hamas that is a threat. now we should start to see the regional threat of islamism from egypt and what we're funding. liz: meanwhile, that brings us right into the rest of the discussion. meanwhile as tide is turning around the world, feels like the sand is shifting beneath your feet we're sending money to the imf, turning around giving these loans to egypt. does that make sense? >> it really doesn't. melissa, so good you're bringing this up because...
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president abbas, now in the evil putdotion of trying to hamas t hamas, is threatening to use this enhanced status to pursue these initiatives. we want to talk about bipartisan issues -- you have got one right here. we are committed to using every means at our disposal to ensure that the u.n. general assembly vote does not serve as a precedent for elevating the status of the plo and other bodies -- therefore, the legislation we have proposed as an amendment to the national defense authorization act would first cut off all foreign aid to the palestinian authority if they serve any legal claims against israel and the international criminal court. we know that aid is important to them. we want to see prosperity in the territory under the palestinian authority's jurisdiction, but when they do this they are just throwing away hopes for peace in any way. we believe is appropriate and write and hope it will not come to that. we would immediately shut down the palestinian office here in d.c. unless it is determined by the president the palestinians have entered into meaningful negotiations with isr
president abbas, now in the evil putdotion of trying to hamas t hamas, is threatening to use this enhanced status to pursue these initiatives. we want to talk about bipartisan issues -- you have got one right here. we are committed to using every means at our disposal to ensure that the u.n. general assembly vote does not serve as a precedent for elevating the status of the plo and other bodies -- therefore, the legislation we have proposed as an amendment to the national defense authorization...
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what we've learned between this hamas and gaza, hamas had this big victory parade and declared they were strong, at the end of the day they have no power unless they're engaged in negotiations with us. who was the strongest player in that whole period? it was egypt. egypt was strong because egypt has peace with israel. the way to be strong is not by making war and unilateral declarations in the u.n. that have no meaning. the way to gain strength is to be a partner. >> is the cease-fire holding? >> cease-fire's holding so far. >> and you thank egypt's president mohamed morsi for that? >> he is so far now proving to be a constructive partner certainly as proven in this last operation. >> is he honoring the peace treaty with israel? >> i think there's peace between egypt and israel on a daily basis, yes. >> what about syria? what would you like to see the government of israel as far as syria is concerned? because it's intense what's going on right now. about 40,000 people have been killed over the past year and a half. >> it's horrible. it's a terrible tragedy. we, the people of israel, loo
what we've learned between this hamas and gaza, hamas had this big victory parade and declared they were strong, at the end of the day they have no power unless they're engaged in negotiations with us. who was the strongest player in that whole period? it was egypt. egypt was strong because egypt has peace with israel. the way to be strong is not by making war and unilateral declarations in the u.n. that have no meaning. the way to gain strength is to be a partner. >> is the cease-fire...
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and there was a demonstration in hamas-controlled gaza. hamas has said he was under tremendous diplomatic treasure to call off the vote and he refused to back down and tonight among palestinians he is being hailed as a hero. palestinian media now saying the world is behind the palestinians in their quest to establish a state. >>shepard: thank you, dade lee miller in jerusalem. there is news breaking at home at fox news, they sent a picture from the white house of the president meeting with mitt romney this afternoon. they visited for an hour over lunch in a private meeting adjacent to the oval office and when there is a winner and a loser in an election, each time it happens, whoever the president is, has whoever he beat into the white house for a talk and each time that happens the people who used to be for the guy who lost are like, well, that is how they are acting today but this happens, consult your history book or your dvr and they are meeting and talking and the president said, mitt romney fixed the olympics and he is a good busines
and there was a demonstration in hamas-controlled gaza. hamas has said he was under tremendous diplomatic treasure to call off the vote and he refused to back down and tonight among palestinians he is being hailed as a hero. palestinian media now saying the world is behind the palestinians in their quest to establish a state. >>shepard: thank you, dade lee miller in jerusalem. there is news breaking at home at fox news, they sent a picture from the white house of the president meeting...
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will almost certainly be strengthened people will see passes presidency as very much weaker hamas will definitely be strengthened here in the gaza strip something that israel and the united states european states north american states generally speaking will be heidi dismayed about. press secretary for the israeli prime minister he told me that his country has never derailed the palestinian struggle for statehood. we called to mahmoud abbas for years to come and return to the table of negotiations and israel i want to to remind you that israel did everything that israel could to proceed to give chance to this to this process we stopped if buildings stopped building in day in some area for turn months what no government before this government and at the end of the of this. of this step of israel nothing happened palestinians didn't get back to the negotiations they did back very symbolically and it was done in two weeks and it again failed so i think that israel done everything he could to bring back this process but again we have to provide security to israel. when the key question is
will almost certainly be strengthened people will see passes presidency as very much weaker hamas will definitely be strengthened here in the gaza strip something that israel and the united states european states north american states generally speaking will be heidi dismayed about. press secretary for the israeli prime minister he told me that his country has never derailed the palestinian struggle for statehood. we called to mahmoud abbas for years to come and return to the table of...
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over the last few years although hamas the government here has supported this push for the increased status of the palestinian people today we've seen widespread demonstrations across ramallah with hundreds of people in the west bank demonstrating supporting manifesting mass oppose this policy to try and get an increase say to us here in the gaza strip we've seen literally thousands of people supporting. mahmoud abbas's policy and this bid for statehood so here is a strong excitement that the wall will finally recognize the palestinians rights increased sense there is a minority here in the gaza strip the feels that this is not in the palestinian city long time interests particularly with respect to the palestinian refugees rights of not being the palestinian diaspora refugees who live outside of the middle east who are refugees in the full of shit that's the big question is what is it going to mean tangibly on the ground we know what israel thinks about it just on this program last week we had spokesman speaking to us making it perfectly clear so what the palestinians think this wil
over the last few years although hamas the government here has supported this push for the increased status of the palestinian people today we've seen widespread demonstrations across ramallah with hundreds of people in the west bank demonstrating supporting manifesting mass oppose this policy to try and get an increase say to us here in the gaza strip we've seen literally thousands of people supporting. mahmoud abbas's policy and this bid for statehood so here is a strong excitement that the...
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doesn't feel that hamas is a terrorist organization -- >> it's not hamas who's asking this. it's not hamas who's asking. it's the palestinian authority. abbas. we told them what to do. we put the set of conditions. they met all of these set of conditions, terms of security for israel and the west bank and everything else. but then we humiliated them, ignored them. they were desperate. this is a desperate move. it's the smartest move that they can -- >> when it comes to having the palestinian people unified under fatah or hamas, there's a big structural difference there between those two sides. so without the unification of that doesn't that make it difficult to know who you're dealing with? especially israel if fatah and hamas are not on the same page? >> today, former prime minister, there's a huge debate in israel. former prime minister, israeli prime minister said publicly that he supports this bid. that this bid actually enhances a two-state eventual solution. five members of the head secret service. five former head secret service in israel, they said that we need to ne
doesn't feel that hamas is a terrorist organization -- >> it's not hamas who's asking this. it's not hamas who's asking. it's the palestinian authority. abbas. we told them what to do. we put the set of conditions. they met all of these set of conditions, terms of security for israel and the west bank and everything else. but then we humiliated them, ignored them. they were desperate. this is a desperate move. it's the smartest move that they can -- >> when it comes to having the...
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while the west bank remained quiet, the islamist hamas which controls gaza exchanged fire with israel this month. shooting hundreds of missiles in to israeli territory in a week of conflict. while many here believe that going to the u.n. could be a first step to palestinian statehood, the united states has warned the palestinian authority going to the united nations could thwart any chances of negotiations for two-state solution. last year, a bid for full statehood at the u.n. ran in to u.s. opposition. israel threatened a strong response should the palestinians seek full statehood. everything from withholding tax revenues to annex xags of land of settlements on the tibl. >> we think this is a mistake. it's political theater. the palestinians can get a piece of paper of the united nations but they're not going to get a state. palestinian statehood only achieved through negotiations with israel. >> reporter: but the palestinians might try to use their new status to bring israeli leaders in front of the international criminal court for war crimes they believe israel committed in pastz m
while the west bank remained quiet, the islamist hamas which controls gaza exchanged fire with israel this month. shooting hundreds of missiles in to israeli territory in a week of conflict. while many here believe that going to the u.n. could be a first step to palestinian statehood, the united states has warned the palestinian authority going to the united nations could thwart any chances of negotiations for two-state solution. last year, a bid for full statehood at the u.n. ran in to u.s....
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hamas achieved something through violence. abbas is saying the nonviolent way is making great gains for us, too, an important message. >> joining me, the president of the jerusalem fund and palestine center. thanks for being with us. what is the relationship now between hamas and gaza, and the west bank on this sniissue? it is a moment of historical importance from palestinian perspective. >> in the pass hamas has not supported the palestine u.n. bid. this week they did throw their support behind it. i think that's interesting. palestinians today, more than ever before, are united under a common realization that the peace process that's been mediated by the united states has yielded nothing for palestinians. the peace process has a track record of 20 years since the madrid conference in 1991. palestinians have only seen the continued colonization of their territory with the number of israeli settlers over that 20-year period tripling. there's a dramatic power imbalance between israelis and palestinian. the israelis are the onl
hamas achieved something through violence. abbas is saying the nonviolent way is making great gains for us, too, an important message. >> joining me, the president of the jerusalem fund and palestine center. thanks for being with us. what is the relationship now between hamas and gaza, and the west bank on this sniissue? it is a moment of historical importance from palestinian perspective. >> in the pass hamas has not supported the palestine u.n. bid. this week they did throw their...
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associated with the power of mahmoud abbas and here in gaza particular associated with the power of hamas now recently of course we've had the two thousand and twelve gaza war a seven eight day war where the state of israel and palestinian resistance groups including the resistance wing of hamas as part of the brigades used force against the state of israel in that conflict now that is starkly different in terms of positioning with the state of israel in terms of engaging with the state of israel in comparison to mahmoud abbas who is seen in the western world as much more moderate in comparison to have presenting a more hardline position including armed resistance against the state of israel so what we have here is a palestinian political dynamic as well if the western world and indeed the u.n. does not support this increase status for the palestinian people then what will almost certainly happen will be that mahmoud abbas is seen as even weaker the palestinian national representative and hamas will be further strengthened to the dismay of israel and the united states. we want to find out
associated with the power of mahmoud abbas and here in gaza particular associated with the power of hamas now recently of course we've had the two thousand and twelve gaza war a seven eight day war where the state of israel and palestinian resistance groups including the resistance wing of hamas as part of the brigades used force against the state of israel in that conflict now that is starkly different in terms of positioning with the state of israel in terms of engaging with the state of...
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hamas rained rockets down on israel. the mullas shipped rockets to the sudan, sent them up into egypt before smuggling them in tunnels. israel responded by doing the only thing a responsible nation could do, it defended itself. now the united states needs to show there are consequences for attacking this sovereign nation, consequences for hamas and iran as well. we should have stricter enforcement of sanctions against iran. iran and hamas both need to be held accountable for these attacks. israel are the moral right and legal duty to defend itself from the barbarians, hamas. there is a cease-fire but only until hamas obtains more iranian missiles. hamas is the puppet and iran is the police departmentetteeer. the iranian regime need to go. the iranian people need to do away with the little guy in the desert, ahmadinejad. and that's the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the house will be in order. further requests for nute speeches? are there further requests for one-minute
hamas rained rockets down on israel. the mullas shipped rockets to the sudan, sent them up into egypt before smuggling them in tunnels. israel responded by doing the only thing a responsible nation could do, it defended itself. now the united states needs to show there are consequences for attacking this sovereign nation, consequences for hamas and iran as well. we should have stricter enforcement of sanctions against iran. iran and hamas both need to be held accountable for these attacks....
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remember a year ago, israel negotiated with hamas, empowering hamas while abbas was submitting his first bid a year ago to the security council israel was negotiating with hamas and releasing 1,000 prisoners. every israeli policy, so far since netanyahu was in office four years has been to negotiate whether clearly or under the table with hamas and empower them and ignore abu mazen. hoping a year ago he will have some kind of recognition, some kind of settlement, political settlement. we're talking about the man that always believed in a peace process that was pro-peace process since 1993 when signed. yes, he was desperate but a smart move on his end to gather more palestinian and rally more palestinians and tell them, look, i can achieve for you something through a political and peaceful path. i think what the u.s. is doing today is humiliating more and more abbas. >> so you -- well that -- you seem to think, then, i mean, going off on what p.j. said, this does open the door to peace negotiations? >> i don't know if it opens the door immediately to peace negotiation but it put more pres
remember a year ago, israel negotiated with hamas, empowering hamas while abbas was submitting his first bid a year ago to the security council israel was negotiating with hamas and releasing 1,000 prisoners. every israeli policy, so far since netanyahu was in office four years has been to negotiate whether clearly or under the table with hamas and empower them and ignore abu mazen. hoping a year ago he will have some kind of recognition, some kind of settlement, political settlement. we're...
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this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are the palestinians that recognize israel's right to exist, and they haven't gotten anything out of this peace process in a very, very long time. >> is it true -- because what's been in the news is hamas, the negotiations that took place with israel over the back and forth, the firing of rockets that, type of thing, there is a cease-fire that's in place, but it was largely due that it was the leadership of hamas that had gained ground from that. something sd this put mahmoud abbas, the west bank, does it give him a push here? does it -- >> it gives him a little bit of a boost, but, you know, the reality is that the whole strategy of confronting israel with weapons is what gained credibility and we should all be concerned about it. >> that's hamas? >> that's hamas, and i think a lot of people that will vote in favor of this, and it accident like they have more than 130 nations that will include u.s. allies. i must say were pressured and pressured heavily to do this. all of those
this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are the palestinians that recognize israel's right to exist, and they haven't gotten anything out of this peace process in a very, very long time. >> is it true -- because what's been in the news is hamas, the negotiations that took place with israel over the back and forth, the firing of rockets that, type of thing, there is a cease-fire that's in place, but it was largely due that it was the leadership of hamas...
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let me just a minute in the recent israeli assault on gaza hamas hamas suddenly how to read revelation its revelation was. all it had to do was point israel into invading launching a ground invasion and israel would capitulate because israel was terrified at the prospect of a ground invasion which would cause many combat lives now in the west bank the palestinian authority suddenly has a revelation the palestinian authority israel's collaborators the palestinian authority israel slaves and the palestinian authority suddenly discovered being israel slaves the slave master needs us as much as we need them because they do all the dirty work for israel they set up the torture chambers they were press all demonstrations against israel in the west bank they are israel's collaborators so the palestinian authority discovered they can make they can't put punitive sanctions on us because if they do our palestinian authority might collapse and israel didn't like the alternative option the alternative option would be chaos in the west bank norman and so so if there are these suddenly did exactly w
let me just a minute in the recent israeli assault on gaza hamas hamas suddenly how to read revelation its revelation was. all it had to do was point israel into invading launching a ground invasion and israel would capitulate because israel was terrified at the prospect of a ground invasion which would cause many combat lives now in the west bank the palestinian authority suddenly has a revelation the palestinian authority israel's collaborators the palestinian authority israel slaves and the...
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sensitive and hamas will be further strengthened to the dismay of israel and the united states you fear the worst talk about what's at stake in this bridge for the palestinians what hope to gain from it. as you direct through the american task force in palestine thanks so much to be on the line from washington d.c. it's appreciated now do you believe this bit of it is successful in a survey we think it will be will bring any benefit to the peace process. as you said it will be successful overwhelmingly so. it really depends on very action that they offer if the israeli and american reaction is to impose. economic sanctions on the palestinians then this might lead to the collapse of the policy of already which is in no one's interest i am quite confident though that neither israel nor the u.s. wants to do that so this is the first factor the second factor is what will the palestinians do next there's no doubt that present our best no is strengthened his stocks are up his diplomatic standing has increased the question is will he use this new strength to forge a. stronger towards this umin
sensitive and hamas will be further strengthened to the dismay of israel and the united states you fear the worst talk about what's at stake in this bridge for the palestinians what hope to gain from it. as you direct through the american task force in palestine thanks so much to be on the line from washington d.c. it's appreciated now do you believe this bit of it is successful in a survey we think it will be will bring any benefit to the peace process. as you said it will be successful...
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first, just to clarify, hamas not really here with the palestinians. the palestinian president abbas is in new york, met with the secretary general last night. yes, this is, as usual with the u.n., words matter. sometimes one letter in a document could be a time bomb. what we have here is the u.n. upgrading later today the status of the palestinians here. they are in effect going to become sort of a state within a group of states. but really, as you mentioned, they won't have the right to vote. they're not going to be an official number 194 of the united nations rostrum of countries. but it does give them access to other u.n. affiliated, other organizations, such as the international criminal court, where if they wanted to, and as the palestinian am bats baas dor said, if israeli behaviors itself, they could go to the haig to try to accuse israel of war crimes. israel says it could do the same against the palestinians, but there are a lot of people upset by this. think think there are risks to the overall peace process which many people have said it's
first, just to clarify, hamas not really here with the palestinians. the palestinian president abbas is in new york, met with the secretary general last night. yes, this is, as usual with the u.n., words matter. sometimes one letter in a document could be a time bomb. what we have here is the u.n. upgrading later today the status of the palestinians here. they are in effect going to become sort of a state within a group of states. but really, as you mentioned, they won't have the right to vote....